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May 21, 2012

 

Friday Rant: Don't Buy My Used Minivan -- Spend Management's Limits

Notoriously thrifty people requiring their own automobiles almost always inevitably purchase a vehicle used rather than new. "Why should I be the one to take the initial 10-25% depreciation hit?" the educated saying goes. This is the philosophy I held for years, purchasing five second-hand cars before deciding to shell out the bucks for a new Honda Odyssey a few years back (albeit one that I was able to negotiate over $5000 off the sticker price at the end of the model year). It turns out this decision to purchase a new people mover (as they like to call it over in the UK) was among the most prescient ones I've made in my adult life. I tell you this now to warn you why you should not buy our minivan when we sell it later this year or next when the next version of the Odyssey goes on sale and we decide to buy a new one.

As I hope our story will show, next time someone tells you to buy a used minivan, think again. As my wife will attest to, our house is largely spotless. But the Odyssey is another story. It's where we tend to let our fastidious standards go for weeks at a time, where the "no-McDonald's inside" rule is tossed out the still-working sunroof just as fast as a three-year-old can whine (after being hit by his older brother), and where university biology students could conduct experiments on the residual growth of bacteria even after all manner of germ rubs and Lysol have been sprayed time and time again.

Not convinced yet? Read on. Heck, even I agree that there are a good many reasons that buying a secondhand minivan appears to make similar sense to buying a used car -- on the surface. After all, they depreciate like any other vehicle. In addition, they're probably more superficially banged up as well, which can lead to a lower valuation and more negotiation wiggle room. But the reasons against far outweigh the decisions for. And it takes a family man (or woman) to tell you why.

Over the course of 45,000 miles and nearly four years of service, our Honda has been all but bulletproof on the outside (aside from the dozen or so dents and scratches that grace its suburban exterior). It's the first time in my life where I can say that I feel ripped off on buying a negotiated extended warranty for a product simple because the underlying product its protecting is so good it won't be necessary.

But the interior and non-mechanical side of the vehicle is another story. Like most families with young kids, there's a better than certain chance -- I can't confirm or deny -- that our vehicle has gotten to know (in some cases quite intimately) most bodily fluids and functions that typical fast-growing babies and children carry out over the course of the day (and over the course of stomach bugs). It's also capable of swallowing quite large amounts of breakfast cereal, dried fruit, small candies and just about any other sustenance or treat that children drop within its many crevices.

Sure, it cleans up fairly well. And the "new leather" smell still permeates the cabin to some degree. But now it fights with less attractive olfactory opponents -- long banished from the battlefield yet still lingering -- that somehow permanently mark their territory. Speaking of marking territory, most minivans are the part-time home of family critters, which also have been known to do their duty at 75 MPH on the highway. But kids can be far worse than dogs, as anyone 40 miles in between rest stops on a rainy day will tell you.

Quite often, the decision to let thriftiness be your guide -- in a smart, total cost way -- strongly outweighs all other merits of an argument in a purchasing situation, especially on the vehicular front. But sometimes you need to go with your gut (versus the remnants of some previous child's gut) when it comes to purchasing that family truckster. And it might make sense to spring for that Scotchguard option while you're in a free spending mode. After all, in certain cases, spend does not matter quite as much as it does in others.

And if you happen to be the one responding to my Craigslist advertisement in a few months time, I'd like to remind you that this essay was based entirely on the experience of another minivan parked next to ours. Disgusting family, I tell you. Really. I mean it.

- Jason Busch


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Eric Strovink's Gravatar Didn't I read somewhere that you shouldn't raise your kids in an antiseptic bubble? They've got to develop their immune system anyway, so I can't think of a better way to get them started than to purchase "your neighbor's" minivan.
# Posted By Eric Strovink | 7/9/10 8:02 AM
William Busch's Gravatar Jason,
Let's buy "your neighbor's van" and flip it, here's an old family used car remediation tip: Empty a few bags of charcoal into the passenger compartment and keep it closed up for a week. Clean-out, vacuum and shampoo & voila! Good as new...and don't forget to re-use the charcoal ;-)
Dad
# Posted By William Busch | 7/9/10 10:12 AM
Pierre Mitchell's Gravatar If you want to see my [wife's] minivan, this is a pretty close approximation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEFE3B0Rje0

Like you, I bought new too, but I however did my patriotic duty and got a Town & Country. Luckily, I too got the extended warranty, but unlike you, have already used it many times.
I like getting it muddy and parking it next to the array of gleaming beige Oddysseys and Siennas to horrify the local soccer moms. I just need to add the duct tape, running boards and bad boy stickers to make the hideous transformation complete.
# Posted By Pierre Mitchell | 7/9/10 1:23 PM
T Epple's Gravatar My wife and I also bought a 2005 Ody new and got the extended warranty. 95,000 miles (and 5 years) later when it was sold I can say all of that extended warranty money was completely wasted!! Also, when sold, it still retained 31% of its original value. So definitely somebody out there DOES buy used minivans regardless of how disgusting they always get on the interior.

Can't say the same thing about our horrific old 2000 Ford Explorer though. I did not buy the extended warranty (but should have as we sank over $5K into repairs). When sold at 5 yrs / 60,000 miles (including a brand new transmission) it only retained 16% of its value.

They make the Odys in Alabama so I felt like I was doing my patriotic duty buying one and I really didn't feel like falling on the sword repeating the Ford experience again.

Also you are right Pierre... the parking lot of every soccer mom event has nothing but Odys and Siennas. They dominate the market so effectively that Ford doesn't even make minivans anymore. I guess there is also a random Town & Country or Gd Caravan but you are definitely WAY outnumbered.
# Posted By T Epple | 7/9/10 4:03 PM
Fred Barnes's Gravatar I bought the original Lee Iacocca minivan back in the day, a Plymouth Voyager. It was a reliable and well-constructed vehicle that cost me practically nothing in repairs. What happened?
# Posted By Fred Barnes | 7/9/10 4:59 PM
carrie ericson's Gravatar Traveling in my 2002 sienna now as I type (no I'm not at the wheel). >95,000 miles and still rolling. My 3rd toyota, so knew not to go for extended warranty as never had any issues (knock on naugahide dashboard) and no regrets on that decision so far. I fully concur with buying new. Our 3 kids, dog and cat that ALWAYS gets sick in car have definitely created a bio-hazard environment. The 3 x-country trips have added to the cars mystique. Finally, my soccer-dad husband treats outside like a bumper car...isn't that what bumpers are for?
# Posted By carrie ericson | 7/10/10 6:15 AM
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