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May 20, 2012

 

Spend Matters Suggests Caution in Reading Gartner's Procurement/Sourcing Comparative Vendor Rankings

Based on our analysis of the research process undertaken by Gartner for its strategic sourcing magic quadrant, a lack of transparency into the overall placement process for the same analysis, a recent presentation that contained numerous inconsistencies / mistakes and a general perception among other analysts, consultants and providers of Gartner's misinterpretation of what certain vendors are capable / not capable of, Spend Matters is urging that readers consider Gartner's comparative vendor recommendations in the procurement and sourcing sector with caution. We believe that the above body of evidence is potentially suggestive of a lack of consistency, rigor and careful attention to detail that is necessary to make conclusive and accurate comparative vendor recommendations and shortlists.

In lieu of using Gartner as a source for accurate information in this sector to develop shortlists of providers, we would encourage Spend Matters readers to consider other sources of information and analysis. These include: Gartner's own AMR Research (overall), Forrester (services procurement, P2P and related areas), TEC, ChainLink Research as well as independent analysts, and especially systems integration / consulting firms with deep implementation experience. In addition, blogs such as Spend Matters, Sourcing Innovation, and Supply Chain Matters can offer a useful perspective on emerging technology trends as well (and some of their authors, including Bob Ferrari of Supply Chain Matters and Michael Lamoureux of Sourcing Innovation, also offer analyst services). Spend Matters also believes that many of the BPO providers are developing a strong perspective of enterprise procurement and sourcing technology, and are therefore capable of offering an informed perspective.

Gartner clients should still consider the firm as a source of information on general sector technology insights within the procurement and sourcing sector and most certainly the broad spectrum of technology research coverage for which they are deservedly well known and respected. But until Gartner begins to show more attention to detail and thoroughness in research processes and client / conference presentation material, Spend Matters suggests that readers who share our perspective should consider other sources of information for comparative vendor rankings and shortlists. This suggestion does not apply to AMR Research clients, a firm owned by Gartner that we continue to believe provides among the most highly researched, accurate and thorough vendor recommendations in the market, especially in the sourcing area for which Gartner (and AMR Research, separately) recently undertook a comparative vendor analysis.

- Jason Busch


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Tea Leaves's Gravatar What do your tea leaves tell you about Debbie's upcoming research?

Seriously, you are petty and it appears you have a personal 'beef' against Debbie. It is one thing to call her out for the content of her slides but quite another to discuss periods and bullet points.

Did you not like her outfit?
# Posted By Tea Leaves | 5/12/10 12:52 PM
Jason Busch's Gravatar I have nothing personally against Debbie or Gartner. I admired her work when she was an independent -- it was better then. We have not had a commercial relationship before and doubt we'll ever have one.

Also, I have nothing against analysts in general. There are some (like Debbie's colleague, Mickey North Rizza) that I respect on many, many levels, both as a professional and as an analyst.

Regarding Debbie, something clearly happened at Gartner. And it's a disservice to the market to let shoddy research methods, opaque decision weightings and criteria and very poor attention to detail hide behind a larger research brand. Is it petty to call all of this out when millions of dollars of software contracts are on the line and Gartner's recommendation counts? I don't think so.

Moreover, we're not just talking about the odd typo in the presentation she gave last week. There were too many mistakes to count.

Step back a minute as well ...

In her last MQ, Debbie did not look at vendor demonstrations. Ask yourself: how they heck can anyone comparatively rank providers if you do not spend a few hours with each digging into the toolset yourself?

The situation last week is further evidence in my book that everyone who would consider Gartner comparative rankings in this area needs to be aware of the practices and personalities that went into creating them. That's all.

Ask yourself: If Gartner hold vendors accountable, who is to hold Gartner accountable?



# Posted By Jason Busch | 5/12/10 12:59 PM
sir donald's Gravatar Jason, I couldn't agree more. The gospel is always more complicated than when we first believed.
# Posted By sir donald | 5/12/10 1:09 PM
sir donald's Gravatar And having recently completed a vendor review for procurement tools and consulted with Gartner I agree this should be shouted from the rooftops. They add value but their analysis has many sins.
# Posted By sir donald | 5/12/10 1:12 PM
Plato's Gravatar To paraphrase Jason, "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quis_custodiet_ipsos_...
# Posted By Plato | 5/12/10 1:28 PM
Then who?'s Gravatar If not Gartner, then who should we get our research from? Oh, wait...YOU sell research now don't you? Hey everybody, we're saved!
# Posted By Then who? | 5/12/10 2:32 PM
Jason Busch's Gravatar Our research is free.


If you go back and read the post, I also suggest:

- AMR
- Forrester (selectively)
- TEC
- ChainLink

... and many independents, SIs, BPOs, etc.
# Posted By Jason Busch | 5/12/10 2:34 PM
Then who?'s Gravatar Free and sponsored are not the same, Jason. Give us a little credit. In fact, the "sponsored research" business model is the exact reason for the rapid decline in the quality among the research houses in the past 10 years.
# Posted By Then who? | 5/13/10 8:13 AM
A vendor's Gravatar 1. I have personally taken phone calls and been in face to face meetings with Gartner, AMR, and Aberdeen sales representatives. The pitch is the same: pay for attention and mention. It's couched in doublespeak, but the underlying message is clear. I have no idea what their pitch might be for their sponsored research.

2. I've also been pitched by bloggers, including this one, both for sponsorship and for sponsored research. In my experience there are no promises and no sleazy implications around paying for attention and mention.

Just one person's experience.
# Posted By A vendor | 5/13/10 9:24 AM
sir donald's Gravatar I'm vendor agnostic in every possible way and there are puts and takes with each of them. Jason's main point is that Gartner's quality is not even close to what it should be as the market leader and he's right on the money. I've had to endure considerable pain backing our IT leadership down from some of their misconceptions due to having too much faith in ratings. The marketplace is far too dynamic to let someone else do the hard research for us. Use them as a starting point and dig in to the devilish details yourself.
# Posted By sir donald | 5/13/10 11:19 AM
Jason Busch's Gravatar Then who,

I would encourage you to download our research and see what you think. If you don't want to download, drop me a line, and I'll happily send you some. Would like your honest view. Thanks.
# Posted By Jason Busch | 5/13/10 12:23 PM
sir donald's Gravatar I'll take you up on that Jason. Shoot me your number. Thx.
# Posted By sir donald | 5/13/10 3:34 PM
Ann Grackin's Gravatar From the analysts side...we like to see innovation from tech companies and like to talk about that to the buyers. An analysts role should be to really dig into the solution and company and then explain what might be important about these to the market place. We eschew picking winners and losers, since it does not respect the cutomer/buyer of the software. Though we all like sports, the role of the analyst is less to keep score and more to position and inform!
Too many analysts don't do their homework. I can't comment on this instance, since I am not a procurement expert, but I know the 'analyst' game all too well.
# Posted By Ann Grackin | 5/13/10 4:11 PM
the doctor's Gravatar "An analyst's role should be to really dig into the solution and company and then explain what might be important about the solution to the market place."

I thought that was a blogger's role? After all, I can't remember the last time a big "analyst" firm actually did this ... especially when you add the caveat that you don't pick winners and losers ... isn't that what the Grave and Tragic Quadrant are all about?

Have I been doing the wrong thing for the last four years? I'm confused! ;-)
# Posted By the doctor | 5/14/10 9:12 AM
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