Coupa and Ariba -- Analyzing Comparative Claims (Part 1)
Last week, Coupa launched an attack campaign against Ariba. Today, I'll start a series in which I'll analyze Coupa's claims and compare them to reality. My goal is to clear the air for those who read the campaign's claims and want an unbiased, outside opinion. In this first post today, I'll tackle a few of Coupa's initial claims and see whether they hold weight -- or not. Later this week, I'll analyze the rest of Coupa's claims against Ariba, and in a final post, I'll put out a few claims I'd make if I were Ariba going up against Coupa (I'll also provide Coupa the opportunity to respond to these in a later column, but to be fair, only after the post goes up; after all, Ariba did not have any advance notice of Coupa's campaign against it). Let's begin.
First, let's tackle ease of use. Coupa claims that its system is "designed with the end user's experience in mind, and characterized by broad adoption at customers" compared with Ariba, which Coupa claims is "not known for ease of use." In its description, Coupa appears to confuse some of its features (e.g., item reviews, supplier ratings) with actual usability, but that's not my beef with this claim. What I dislike about it is that Ariba is not as bad as Coupa makes it out to be. In fact, I recently interviewed a shared-service buying resource at an outsourcing firm and asked him which system he preferred -- Oracle or SAP. He responded, "Ariba."
Now that's from a user -- a power user, in fact. Moreover, Gartner published a review in June 2009 calling Ariba's P2P application "excellent" for ease of use. So what's the verdict on Coupa's claim? It's neither right nor wrong, but it is misleading. Coupa may be easy to use for simple requisitioning in the SMB market, but when it comes to a complex environment, Ariba comes out on top over SAP and Oracle (and Coupa, for that matter, which has only a limited track record of scaling in Global 2000 environments, at least to date). Seriously, riding a Vespa might be easier than riding a Ducati, but we all know it's not a fair comparison. Still, both can get you killed if you don't wear a helmet, or if you do something stupid, so be forewarned, whichever P2P or motorized path you plan to take.
Next, let's talk configuration. Coupa claims that its "Quickstart deployment is so easy, you'll be able to generate your first PO in less than an hour. Application configuration is so simple, business users can make changes on the fly." In comparison, Coupa claims, Ariba has "potentially time-consuming and expensive deployments and customization requiring extensive IT and consulting resources. Maintaining the system and changing workflows may require dedicated technical resources." Again, Coupa is neither right nor wrong, but it is quite misleading. Sure, with Coupa, you can start using the system in an hour, but chances are, you won't have it configured to the full extent possible. A few weeks to a month or two is more like it for a broader roll-out (Coupa's first larger-scale enterprise deployment took much longer, mind you, but you won't read that in the comparison).
Likewise, Ariba takes time to roll out, but it's getting better at it in a SaaS context, provided that back-end environments are not overly complex (you're probably fine if you're less than $7.5-$10 billion in revenue). Still, count on 3-6 months to be fully up and running, although it's possible to get started in targeted areas more quickly. A more disconcerting part of Coupa's analysis is its claim of the level of customization required with Ariba. With Ariba's SaaS platform, there's been a move towards platform configuration over customization whenever possible. This marks a big shift from its installed past, and Coupa is simply wrong and misleading in its claim about Ariba SaaS.
So what's the verdict? No doubt, Coupa can be up and running faster, but in most cases it's working in much smaller environments than Ariba. If a $2.5 billion company were comparing Coupa and Ariba, I'd bet the actual initial company-wide deployment time for each would be within two months of the other for full rollout -- not enough to move the savings needle if Ariba is the better solution for the organization. In my view, the better question to ask is the time it would take to get a specific dollar amount (e.g., $300 million) under management and full control.
The next topic we'll skim over quickly: "Value." I'm sorry, value is a not a fair comparison metric in my book, at least the way Coupa lays it out. It's so nebulous that, unless you want to get into total cost comparisons, the mere mention of "value" on such a high level should cause you to look circumspectly at the comparison. Sure, Coupa may not have Ariba's network fees or configuration costs, but Ariba may allow you to to drive better overall procurement controls and the ability to work more closely with preferred suppliers. This in turn allows you to capture rebates based on negotiated savings (which are tracked in spend and contract management tools), and profit from dynamic discounting programs more easily. See, it's not a fair comparison metric unless you want to create a customized grid based on your organization and hundreds of variables. The verdict: Coupa loses on this one by getting its claim wrong and by using "value" as a basis of comparison without all the details, including the areas in which Ariba is stronger.
Fourth, and finally for today, let's turn our attention to benchmarking. Here Coupa claims that its "multi-tenant cloud architecture allows for performance benchmarking against the community across dozens of KPIs" versus Ariba, which it claims does not offer similar capabilities. This is only partially true. Ariba does offer some benchmarking capabilities in other solution areas, yet not P2P, at least that I'm aware. Still, its SaaS architecture could allow it to move in this direction, no doubt. In Coupa's case, the move to offer cloud-based benchmarking is quite cool indeed, although I'm not sure how useful the actual benchmarks will be until it begins to cut them by industry and company size. You can't compare a $20 million non-profit/university with a $250 million financial services firm and hope to glean anything from a benchmark comparison. Still, I commend Coupa for moving in this direction. (Incidentally, Coupa shares a similar vision here with Ketera, which is also moving in this direction, and offers related benchmarking capabilities across its network today.)
Stay tuned for more analysis tomorrow, and plan to put on the flak-jacket, because I won't hold back from calling it as I see it.
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Reporter (Joe): What do you think about the new marketing campaign at Vespa?
Ducati President: What the heck is Vespa?...wait, last night I knocked boots with the new Ducati marketing girl, I think her name was Vespa.
Reporter (Joe): Um…ok. Are you sure you’re qualified to be President of Ducati?
Ducati President: Qualified? Have you seen my track record? No, I’m not qualified, but I brought with me some kiss-@ss knobs from American cycle after I ran that company into the ground. As soon as we can sell this POS, I’ll be drinking Johnny Walker blue 24/7.
Ducati President: Hang on a second….(yelling) Hey CFO charlie, sell some of my options…….what?... I know it’s not an ATM, why don’t you get busy selling this dog with fleas & stay out of my gelled hair…..ok, I’m back.
Reporter (Joe): this is really interesting. I have a couple questions about the changes to the future models of Denali. First, why did you remove gears 3,4, and 5? And why the heck did you decide to lock the steering column so that the bike can only drive straight? Don’t you think the long-time Denali customers will be upset with this decision? These customers corner at 120 MPH on the old Ducati models. You’ve completely limited their need for speed & maneuverability.
Ducati President: you know what I tell these customers….i tell them to suck it. We are DUCATI. I don’t care that we’re a measly $300M company with limited growth potential. Arrogance & incompetence is what I do. (and it’s what my loser lieutenants do as well.)
Reporter (Joe): Ok…well this has been extremely enlightening. I’m going to speak with the Vespa next.
Ducati President: Tell Vespa she left her panties in my car.
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Reporter (Joe): Wow, that’s an interesting marketing campaign at Vespa
Vespa President: Yeah, we’re hoping it puts us on the map.
Reporter (Joe): Do you really understand this market, because 99% of the campaign is not even close to the truth. Anybody with an IQ over 50 will see through this.
Vespa President: I’m encouraging companies to compare our Vespa to a Ducati…..of course I don’t understand this market…..But the VC’s don’t know the market either, so I should stay at the wheel for a while longer.
Reporter (Joe): Vespa must be burning through cash at a record pace....how much longer can you keep the lights on?
Vespa President: Well, we spent a boatload on this marketing campaign, so the campaign will either sink us or sink us. ….but I’ll get paid regardless.
You need to change jobs, whoever wrote this.
Can't stop LOL ...
In the days when Barnes and Noble ignored Amazon as a Systems Integration house, Ariba was an upstart that Oracle and SAP lost no sleep over.
This time around, Ariba isn't Goliath. It shouldn't flatter itself to think so. But neither is Coupa a David. They have cloud computing as their sling shot - that's not going to land a fatal blow - but it will hurt. Not because Coupa's functionality is better or anything like that - but because their sales cycle time will be much shorter.
This is they real differentiator. SaaS sells quicker.
Ariba had better start shouting SaaS a bit louder.
My guess is the latter but I'd really appreciate an answer as I'm trying to figure out if the time spent reading your blog was worthwhile and I should factor in your comments, or if it was paid fluff, in which case I should not.
Thanks.
I have worked with many of the solution providers in the sector over the years (including many competitors of each other) in an advisory and marketing capacity (e.g., webinars, product strategy, etc.). Some are also sponsors/advertisers of this blog (but have no impact on our research and musings -- BTW, neither Coupa or Ariba are currently sponsors). I also worked five years @ FreeMarkets (acquired by Ariba). I've also worked with a range of practitioners throughout my career. Today, no single vendor/consultant/outsourcing provider represents more than 7% of the revenue for the various ventures I'm involved in, directly or indirectly (the average is something like 2-3% and for the parties in question here, it's that or less). For vendor/consultant disclosures look on the right -- it's not 100% up to date, but close. I need to stay more on top of it.
I get information from multiple sources: 1) from briefings and product demonstrations (in this case with both Ariba and Coupa); 2) from software selection consulting projects (I have been involved in numerous P2P selections in recent years); and 3) channel/outsourcing partner discussions, engagements and checks.
I'd like to think Spend Matters is as objective and transparent as any source. I know that I've lost commercial relationships over the years by stating my opinion here. But it comes with the territory if you truly want to stay objective while developing a point of view.
I'm sure other Spend Matters readers would be happy to offer an opinion on their view of my objectivity in relation to other analyst and media sites/firms.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05138/505996.stm
Again, I'd be interested, as I assume other readers would, to understand if this is just a marketing blog or really written by an analyst with a neutral view on the space.
Thanks.
I'd be happy to discuss the early history of this blog and how it got started with you. Ariba has no current involvement with it -- they were the initial sponsor and provided technical support for the first year (it started in November 2004). They never had any editorial control -- in anyway whatsoever.
Kevin Brooks, who I still describe as my "co-founder" -- it was his idea after all -- would also be happy to share his thoughts as well if you want to reach out to him directly. Kevin was Director of communications at the time for Ariba (he left years ago).
As history, see:
http://www.spendmatters.com/index.cfm/2008/10/13/S...
http://www.spendmatters.com/index.cfm/2009/7/14/Ke...
I stand by all my previous words and if you have any doubt as to who I am, I'd suggest you stick your real name out there so that others can contact you directly and give you their opinions. I'd also be happy to chat with you as well (call me anytime during the day: 773 525 7406). There are people these days at Ariba who would prefer not to even be in the same room as me, but that's another story.
As a final aside, it's clear from your comments you've not read any of my other recent posts on Ariba's challenges and what's holding them back from their potential. You can use the search feature to do that if you're so inclined.